a music/sound platform that host AI generated music to keep people ...

...focused in productivity work.

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Engagement
Net use signal
Net buy signal

Idea type: Swamp

The market has seen several mediocre solutions that nobody loves. Unless you can offer something fundamentally different, you’ll likely struggle to stand out or make money.

Should You Build It?

Don't build it.


Your are here

You're stepping into a crowded space. The idea of using AI-generated music to boost focus and productivity is gaining traction, as evidenced by the 14 similar products we found. This puts you squarely in the "Swamp" category, meaning there are already several mediocre solutions out there. While the number of similar products indicates a level of interest, the low average comment count (1) suggests that existing solutions aren't particularly engaging. There isn't any strong signal in the comments that people want to use or buy any of the existing products. To succeed, you'll need to offer something fundamentally different or risk getting lost in the noise. Before you dive deep, it's crucial to understand why those existing solutions haven't fully captured the market.

Recommendations

  1. Start by thoroughly researching the existing solutions in the AI-generated music for focus space. Identify their shortcomings and the reasons why users haven't fully embraced them. Focus on understanding the user experience gaps and areas where current solutions fall short in delivering consistent and effective focus enhancement. For example, MusicGPT was criticized for short music clips and low quality output.
  2. If you decide to proceed, identify a very specific niche or user group that is underserved by current AI music platforms. Instead of broadly targeting 'productivity,' consider focusing on specific professions (e.g., software developers, writers) or specific focus needs (e.g., deep work, combating ADHD). Tailoring your AI music generation to these specific needs may give you a competitive edge.
  3. Explore the possibility of building tools or features that could integrate with or enhance existing music platforms or productivity applications. Instead of creating a standalone platform, consider offering your AI music generation as an API or plugin that can be used by others.
  4. Given the already crowded market, consider investigating adjacent problems that may be more promising and less competitive. Could you leverage AI to enhance other aspects of productivity, such as task management or time blocking, and then music generation be one small aspect of a broader offering? Think broadly about the intersection of AI and productivity.
  5. Given the "Swamp" category, it's crucial to carefully evaluate whether this is the best use of your time and resources. It may be more prudent to save your energy and expertise for a different opportunity that offers a higher potential for success. Don't be afraid to pivot to a completely different idea if the market research indicates a lack of viability.
  6. Because the products in this space have received minimal feedback, consider launching a very targeted, small-scale test of your product idea FIRST, before you actually build it. This test should target a very specific niche, and you should spend time with these users to see if they actually find the solution helpful in the moment. Be honest with yourself if people don't find value in the offering.

Questions

  1. What specific aspects of current AI-generated focus music do users find most distracting or ineffective? How can your solution address these issues directly?
  2. How can you leverage user feedback and data to continuously improve the quality and relevance of your AI-generated music over time, ensuring that it remains effective for focus and productivity?
  3. What is your plan to avoid the fate of other products in this space who aren't getting any engagement (as indicated by the low average comment count)? What will you do differently to foster community?

Your are here

You're stepping into a crowded space. The idea of using AI-generated music to boost focus and productivity is gaining traction, as evidenced by the 14 similar products we found. This puts you squarely in the "Swamp" category, meaning there are already several mediocre solutions out there. While the number of similar products indicates a level of interest, the low average comment count (1) suggests that existing solutions aren't particularly engaging. There isn't any strong signal in the comments that people want to use or buy any of the existing products. To succeed, you'll need to offer something fundamentally different or risk getting lost in the noise. Before you dive deep, it's crucial to understand why those existing solutions haven't fully captured the market.

Recommendations

  1. Start by thoroughly researching the existing solutions in the AI-generated music for focus space. Identify their shortcomings and the reasons why users haven't fully embraced them. Focus on understanding the user experience gaps and areas where current solutions fall short in delivering consistent and effective focus enhancement. For example, MusicGPT was criticized for short music clips and low quality output.
  2. If you decide to proceed, identify a very specific niche or user group that is underserved by current AI music platforms. Instead of broadly targeting 'productivity,' consider focusing on specific professions (e.g., software developers, writers) or specific focus needs (e.g., deep work, combating ADHD). Tailoring your AI music generation to these specific needs may give you a competitive edge.
  3. Explore the possibility of building tools or features that could integrate with or enhance existing music platforms or productivity applications. Instead of creating a standalone platform, consider offering your AI music generation as an API or plugin that can be used by others.
  4. Given the already crowded market, consider investigating adjacent problems that may be more promising and less competitive. Could you leverage AI to enhance other aspects of productivity, such as task management or time blocking, and then music generation be one small aspect of a broader offering? Think broadly about the intersection of AI and productivity.
  5. Given the "Swamp" category, it's crucial to carefully evaluate whether this is the best use of your time and resources. It may be more prudent to save your energy and expertise for a different opportunity that offers a higher potential for success. Don't be afraid to pivot to a completely different idea if the market research indicates a lack of viability.
  6. Because the products in this space have received minimal feedback, consider launching a very targeted, small-scale test of your product idea FIRST, before you actually build it. This test should target a very specific niche, and you should spend time with these users to see if they actually find the solution helpful in the moment. Be honest with yourself if people don't find value in the offering.

Questions

  1. What specific aspects of current AI-generated focus music do users find most distracting or ineffective? How can your solution address these issues directly?
  2. How can you leverage user feedback and data to continuously improve the quality and relevance of your AI-generated music over time, ensuring that it remains effective for focus and productivity?
  3. What is your plan to avoid the fate of other products in this space who aren't getting any engagement (as indicated by the low average comment count)? What will you do differently to foster community?

  • Confidence: High
    • Number of similar products: 14
  • Engagement: Low
    • Average number of comments: 1
  • Net use signal: 27.0%
    • Positive use signal: 27.0%
    • Negative use signal: 0.0%
  • Net buy signal: 0.0%
    • Positive buy signal: 0.0%
    • Negative buy signal: 0.0%

This chart summarizes all the similar products we found for your idea in a single plot.

The x-axis represents the overall feedback each product received. This is calculated from the net use and buy signals that were expressed in the comments. The maximum is +1, which means all comments (across all similar products) were positive, expressed a willingness to use & buy said product. The minimum is -1 and it means the exact opposite.

The y-axis captures the strength of the signal, i.e. how many people commented and how does this rank against other products in this category. The maximum is +1, which means these products were the most liked, upvoted and talked about launches recently. The minimum is 0, meaning zero engagement or feedback was received.

The sizes of the product dots are determined by the relevance to your idea, where 10 is the maximum.

Your idea is the big blueish dot, which should lie somewhere in the polygon defined by these products. It can be off-center because we use custom weighting to summarize these metrics.

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