24 Aug 2025
Health & Fitness

A product to help people clear mind and don’t swipe phones before go ...

...to bed to get a good sleep

Confidence
Engagement
Net use signal
Net buy signal

Idea type: Freemium

People love using similar products but resist paying. You’ll need to either find who will pay or create additional value that’s worth paying for.

Should You Build It?

Build but think about differentiation and monetization.


Your are here

You're entering a market where people are aware of the problem of pre-sleep phone use and are actively looking for solutions. There are several similar products already available (n_matches = 8), indicating that you are in a competitive space. The "Freemium" category suggests that while people are interested in these types of products, they may resist paying for them upfront. This is further validated by the lack of strong net buy signals. The engagement level is medium (avg n_comments = 5), so users are somewhat engaged, but it's not a viral product category where people are excessively raving or complaining about each individual solution. Given this context, you need to be prepared to differentiate and carefully consider how you'll generate revenue.

Recommendations

  1. Since you're in the "Freemium" category with multiple competitors, deeply analyze the existing solutions like Dream Sheep and 4rem. Understand their features, pricing, and user feedback (both positive and negative). Pay close attention to the criticisms surrounding products like 'Can you go an hour without touching your phone?' that mention increasing screen time paradoxically. This will help you identify gaps and differentiate your product effectively.
  2. Start by identifying specific user segments who struggle most with pre-sleep phone use. Are they students, professionals, or parents? Understanding their unique needs and pain points will enable you to tailor your product and marketing messages more effectively. For instance, are they struggling with work emails, social media or something else?
  3. Design your free version to offer core functionality that provides real value. Focus on one or two key features that address the most common user needs, such as basic screen time tracking and usage limits. This will help you attract a broad user base and showcase the potential of your product. But keep in mind the negative feedback from other products and make sure not to make it even easier to spend time on the phone.
  4. Based on the idea category recommendation, create premium features that provide significantly enhanced value for power users. This could include advanced analytics, personalized recommendations, custom content (e.g., sleep meditations, calming stories), or integrations with other health and wellness apps. Determine what would be the biggest value-add for those who use the free version consistently.
  5. Consider offering team or family plans to encourage wider adoption and increase revenue potential. Businesses might be interested in using your product to promote employee wellness and reduce burnout. Families might benefit from shared screen time limits and parental controls. Make it easy for groups to onboard.
  6. Explore offering personalized coaching or consulting services to help users develop healthy sleep habits. This could be a high-value add-on for users who need extra support and guidance. You could also create premium content such as webinars, workshops, or one-on-one consultations.
  7. Implement A/B testing to experiment with different pricing models and feature sets. Start with a small group of users and gather feedback before rolling out changes to your entire user base. Be flexible and willing to adjust your strategy based on what you learn.
  8. Actively engage with your users to gather feedback and build a community. Respond to comments, answer questions, and solicit suggestions for new features. User feedback is invaluable for improving your product and building customer loyalty. Check out the existing apps' comment sections for inspiration.

Questions

  1. Given the potential for 'doomscrolling' and negative associations with screen time reduction apps, how will you ensure your product is perceived as a genuine solution for well-being, rather than a tool that ironically increases anxiety and screen usage?
  2. Considering the mixed reactions to similar apps and the challenge of convincing people to pay in this category, what is your unfair advantage or unique angle that will attract users and drive sustainable revenue?
  3. How will you proactively address the criticism that some screen time management solutions are self-centered or cater to the 'me generation,' and instead promote a sense of balance, connection, and overall well-being?

Your are here

You're entering a market where people are aware of the problem of pre-sleep phone use and are actively looking for solutions. There are several similar products already available (n_matches = 8), indicating that you are in a competitive space. The "Freemium" category suggests that while people are interested in these types of products, they may resist paying for them upfront. This is further validated by the lack of strong net buy signals. The engagement level is medium (avg n_comments = 5), so users are somewhat engaged, but it's not a viral product category where people are excessively raving or complaining about each individual solution. Given this context, you need to be prepared to differentiate and carefully consider how you'll generate revenue.

Recommendations

  1. Since you're in the "Freemium" category with multiple competitors, deeply analyze the existing solutions like Dream Sheep and 4rem. Understand their features, pricing, and user feedback (both positive and negative). Pay close attention to the criticisms surrounding products like 'Can you go an hour without touching your phone?' that mention increasing screen time paradoxically. This will help you identify gaps and differentiate your product effectively.
  2. Start by identifying specific user segments who struggle most with pre-sleep phone use. Are they students, professionals, or parents? Understanding their unique needs and pain points will enable you to tailor your product and marketing messages more effectively. For instance, are they struggling with work emails, social media or something else?
  3. Design your free version to offer core functionality that provides real value. Focus on one or two key features that address the most common user needs, such as basic screen time tracking and usage limits. This will help you attract a broad user base and showcase the potential of your product. But keep in mind the negative feedback from other products and make sure not to make it even easier to spend time on the phone.
  4. Based on the idea category recommendation, create premium features that provide significantly enhanced value for power users. This could include advanced analytics, personalized recommendations, custom content (e.g., sleep meditations, calming stories), or integrations with other health and wellness apps. Determine what would be the biggest value-add for those who use the free version consistently.
  5. Consider offering team or family plans to encourage wider adoption and increase revenue potential. Businesses might be interested in using your product to promote employee wellness and reduce burnout. Families might benefit from shared screen time limits and parental controls. Make it easy for groups to onboard.
  6. Explore offering personalized coaching or consulting services to help users develop healthy sleep habits. This could be a high-value add-on for users who need extra support and guidance. You could also create premium content such as webinars, workshops, or one-on-one consultations.
  7. Implement A/B testing to experiment with different pricing models and feature sets. Start with a small group of users and gather feedback before rolling out changes to your entire user base. Be flexible and willing to adjust your strategy based on what you learn.
  8. Actively engage with your users to gather feedback and build a community. Respond to comments, answer questions, and solicit suggestions for new features. User feedback is invaluable for improving your product and building customer loyalty. Check out the existing apps' comment sections for inspiration.

Questions

  1. Given the potential for 'doomscrolling' and negative associations with screen time reduction apps, how will you ensure your product is perceived as a genuine solution for well-being, rather than a tool that ironically increases anxiety and screen usage?
  2. Considering the mixed reactions to similar apps and the challenge of convincing people to pay in this category, what is your unfair advantage or unique angle that will attract users and drive sustainable revenue?
  3. How will you proactively address the criticism that some screen time management solutions are self-centered or cater to the 'me generation,' and instead promote a sense of balance, connection, and overall well-being?

  • Confidence: High
    • Number of similar products: 8
  • Engagement: Medium
    • Average number of comments: 5
  • Net use signal: 31.8%
    • Positive use signal: 35.8%
    • Negative use signal: 4.0%
  • Net buy signal: -2.0%
    • Positive buy signal: 0.0%
    • Negative buy signal: 2.0%

This chart summarizes all the similar products we found for your idea in a single plot.

The x-axis represents the overall feedback each product received. This is calculated from the net use and buy signals that were expressed in the comments. The maximum is +1, which means all comments (across all similar products) were positive, expressed a willingness to use & buy said product. The minimum is -1 and it means the exact opposite.

The y-axis captures the strength of the signal, i.e. how many people commented and how does this rank against other products in this category. The maximum is +1, which means these products were the most liked, upvoted and talked about launches recently. The minimum is 0, meaning zero engagement or feedback was received.

The sizes of the product dots are determined by the relevance to your idea, where 10 is the maximum.

Your idea is the big blueish dot, which should lie somewhere in the polygon defined by these products. It can be off-center because we use custom weighting to summarize these metrics.

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