Affordable postgresql hosting tailiored to saas analytics empowered ...

...with analytical postgresql extensions

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Idea type: Freemium

People love using similar products but resist paying. You’ll need to either find who will pay or create additional value that’s worth paying for.

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Build but think about differentiation and monetization.


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You're entering a market with moderate competition, as indicated by the 12 similar products we identified. The 'Freemium' idea category suggests that users are generally interested in the type of product you're offering, but may be hesitant to pay for it outright. Engagement with similar products is high, with an average of 12 comments per product, suggesting that there's a strong interest in solutions that speed up Postgres analytics with analytical Postgresql extensions. Your challenge will be to differentiate your affordable PostgreSQL hosting tailored for SaaS analytics from the existing options and convince users of the value of your premium features or services. Many users seem to favor products that improve query speed. To succeed in this space, you need to carefully consider your monetization strategy.

Recommendations

  1. Focus on identifying the specific user segments within SaaS analytics that derive the most value from free versions of PostgreSQL hosting. This will allow you to tailor your premium offerings to their specific needs and pain points, making them more likely to convert.
  2. Develop premium features specifically designed to address the challenges faced by SaaS analytics users, such as automated performance tuning, advanced security features, or enhanced data visualization tools. Make these features demonstrably superior to the capabilities available in the free version.
  3. Consider a team-based pricing model rather than individual subscriptions. SaaS analytics often involve collaboration, and charging per team can be a more attractive and sustainable revenue stream. This aligns incentives with team-wide productivity gains.
  4. Offer personalized support, consulting, or onboarding services to premium users. This can be a high-value add-on that justifies a higher price point and helps users maximize the benefits of your platform. This also creates a feedback loop for product improvement.
  5. Implement A/B testing on different pricing tiers and feature bundles with small groups of users to identify the optimal monetization strategy. Continuously iterate based on user feedback and data to refine your offerings and pricing.
  6. Given that speed is a common desire among users, ensure your 'affordable' solution doesn't compromise performance significantly. Clearly demonstrate the performance benefits of your analytical extensions through benchmarks and comparisons against standard PostgreSQL setups.
  7. Address concerns about write speeds, which were raised in the context of similar products like pg_analytica. Optimize your platform for both read and write operations to provide a well-rounded solution for SaaS analytics workloads.
  8. Provide comprehensive documentation, benchmarks, and examples to address the criticisms leveled against products like BemiDB. This will build trust and demonstrate the reliability and usability of your platform.
  9. Differentiate your offering from existing solutions like ClickHouse (as seen in the comments about VulcanSQL) by highlighting unique features, ease of use, or specific integrations tailored to the SaaS analytics ecosystem.

Questions

  1. What specific analytical PostgreSQL extensions will you offer, and how do they provide a significant advantage over existing solutions in terms of performance, scalability, or functionality for SaaS analytics use cases?
  2. How will you balance affordability with the resources required to provide reliable and high-performance PostgreSQL hosting, ensuring that your platform can handle the demands of SaaS analytics workloads?
  3. What go-to-market strategies will you employ to reach your target audience of SaaS companies and demonstrate the value proposition of your platform in a competitive market?

Your are here

You're entering a market with moderate competition, as indicated by the 12 similar products we identified. The 'Freemium' idea category suggests that users are generally interested in the type of product you're offering, but may be hesitant to pay for it outright. Engagement with similar products is high, with an average of 12 comments per product, suggesting that there's a strong interest in solutions that speed up Postgres analytics with analytical Postgresql extensions. Your challenge will be to differentiate your affordable PostgreSQL hosting tailored for SaaS analytics from the existing options and convince users of the value of your premium features or services. Many users seem to favor products that improve query speed. To succeed in this space, you need to carefully consider your monetization strategy.

Recommendations

  1. Focus on identifying the specific user segments within SaaS analytics that derive the most value from free versions of PostgreSQL hosting. This will allow you to tailor your premium offerings to their specific needs and pain points, making them more likely to convert.
  2. Develop premium features specifically designed to address the challenges faced by SaaS analytics users, such as automated performance tuning, advanced security features, or enhanced data visualization tools. Make these features demonstrably superior to the capabilities available in the free version.
  3. Consider a team-based pricing model rather than individual subscriptions. SaaS analytics often involve collaboration, and charging per team can be a more attractive and sustainable revenue stream. This aligns incentives with team-wide productivity gains.
  4. Offer personalized support, consulting, or onboarding services to premium users. This can be a high-value add-on that justifies a higher price point and helps users maximize the benefits of your platform. This also creates a feedback loop for product improvement.
  5. Implement A/B testing on different pricing tiers and feature bundles with small groups of users to identify the optimal monetization strategy. Continuously iterate based on user feedback and data to refine your offerings and pricing.
  6. Given that speed is a common desire among users, ensure your 'affordable' solution doesn't compromise performance significantly. Clearly demonstrate the performance benefits of your analytical extensions through benchmarks and comparisons against standard PostgreSQL setups.
  7. Address concerns about write speeds, which were raised in the context of similar products like pg_analytica. Optimize your platform for both read and write operations to provide a well-rounded solution for SaaS analytics workloads.
  8. Provide comprehensive documentation, benchmarks, and examples to address the criticisms leveled against products like BemiDB. This will build trust and demonstrate the reliability and usability of your platform.
  9. Differentiate your offering from existing solutions like ClickHouse (as seen in the comments about VulcanSQL) by highlighting unique features, ease of use, or specific integrations tailored to the SaaS analytics ecosystem.

Questions

  1. What specific analytical PostgreSQL extensions will you offer, and how do they provide a significant advantage over existing solutions in terms of performance, scalability, or functionality for SaaS analytics use cases?
  2. How will you balance affordability with the resources required to provide reliable and high-performance PostgreSQL hosting, ensuring that your platform can handle the demands of SaaS analytics workloads?
  3. What go-to-market strategies will you employ to reach your target audience of SaaS companies and demonstrate the value proposition of your platform in a competitive market?

  • Confidence: High
    • Number of similar products: 12
  • Engagement: High
    • Average number of comments: 12
  • Net use signal: 2.1%
    • Positive use signal: 10.6%
    • Negative use signal: 8.5%
  • Net buy signal: -3.2%
    • Positive buy signal: 0.0%
    • Negative buy signal: 3.2%

This chart summarizes all the similar products we found for your idea in a single plot.

The x-axis represents the overall feedback each product received. This is calculated from the net use and buy signals that were expressed in the comments. The maximum is +1, which means all comments (across all similar products) were positive, expressed a willingness to use & buy said product. The minimum is -1 and it means the exact opposite.

The y-axis captures the strength of the signal, i.e. how many people commented and how does this rank against other products in this category. The maximum is +1, which means these products were the most liked, upvoted and talked about launches recently. The minimum is 0, meaning zero engagement or feedback was received.

The sizes of the product dots are determined by the relevance to your idea, where 10 is the maximum.

Your idea is the big blueish dot, which should lie somewhere in the polygon defined by these products. It can be off-center because we use custom weighting to summarize these metrics.

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Pg_analytica – Speed up queries by exporting tables to columnar format

08 Jun 2024 Database

Introducing the pg_analytica extension for Postgres.Tables can be exported to columnar format via this extension to massively speed up your analytics queries. Exported data is periodically refreshed to keep your query results fresh.

The Show HN product, pg_analytica, is recognized for speeding up Postgres analytics queries, but users request benchmarks against indexed data and comparisons with pg_analytics, parquet_fdw, and duckdb_fdw. While the product offers faster read speeds, it also has slower write speeds. Users note the importance of Spark AI 2020 slides for understanding data organization and suggest forking the open source project for a thorough comparison. There's criticism about the clickbait title and a mention of a switch from Postgres to Clickhouse for analytics by Plausible.

Users criticized the product for its lack of benchmarking against indexed data, the necessity to read entire tables, and poor write speeds that are expected to worsen. The title was deemed clickbait, and concerns were raised about resource usage and data delays. Additionally, the product's parquet_fdw was noted to lack vectorized groupby/join operations, and there was a requirement for seed data. An earlier version's use of Postgres was also mentioned.


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BemiDB – Postgres read replica optimized for analytics

07 Nov 2024 Data & Analytics

Hi HN! We're Evgeny and Arjun, and we’re building a better way to do analytics with Postgres.We love Postgres for its simplicity, power, and rich ecosystem. But engineers have to still get bogged down with heavyweight and expensive OLAP systems when connecting an analytics data stack.Postgres is amazing at OLTP queries, but not for OLAP queries (large data scans and aggregations). Even in this case, we’ve still heard from countless scaling startups that they still try to use only a read replica to run analytics workloads since they don’t want to deal with the data engineering complexity of the alternative. This actually works surprising well initially, but starts to break for them as they scale or when integrating multiple data sources. Adding lots of indexes to support analytics also slows down their transactional write performance.When growing out of “just use Postgres”, companies have to understand and wrangle complex ETL pipelines, CDC processes, and data warehouses — adding layers of complexity that defeat the simplicity that undermines their initial choice for Postgres as their data storage in the first place.We thought there had to be a better way, so we’re building BemiDB. It’s designed to handle complex analytical queries at scale without the usual overhead. It’s a single binary that automatically syncs with Postgres data and is Postgres-compatible, so it’s like querying standard Postgres and works with all existing tools.Under the hood, we use Apache Iceberg (with Parquet data files) stored in S3. This allows for bottomless inexpensive storage, compressed data in columnar files, and an open format that guarantees compatibility with other data tools.We embed DuckDB as the query engine for in-memory analytics that work for complex queries. With efficient columnar storage and vectorized execution, we’re aiming for faster results without heavy infra. BemiDB communicates over the Postgres wire protocol to make all querying Postgres-compatible.We want to simplify data stacks for companies that use Postgres by reducing complexity (single binary and S3), using non-proprietary data formats (Iceberg open tables), and removing vendor lock-in (open source). We'd love to hear your feedback! What do you think?

Users have raised concerns about scalability, real-time synchronization, and the suitability of the tool for large databases and columnar storage. DuckDB's stability and production readiness are questioned, along with the AGPL license's compatibility with open-source principles. Criticisms also focus on the lack of documentation, benchmarks, and examples, as well as the tool's handling of updates, deletions, and data retention. The choice of embedded databases and the S3 interface's performance and cost are also debated. There are also specific issues with ClickHouse's object storage and materialized views.


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MyDuck Server – Supercharge MySQL and Postgres Analytics with DuckDB

28 Nov 2024 Developer Tools

Hello HN!We're excited to announce MyDuck Server, an open-source project that seamlessly integrates the analytical power of DuckDB with your existing MySQL & Postgres databases.*Backstory*Currently, there are no fully satisfactory open-source OLAP solutions for MySQL & Postgres. In the MySQL ecosystem, HeatWave offers close integration, but it's a proprietary, commercial product from Oracle. The Postgres community has seen promising DuckDB-based extensions emerge, including the official pg_duckdb. However, extensions can introduce isolation concerns in mission-critical environments.Consequently, many organizations resort to setting up complex and costly data movement pipelines using tools like Debezium, Flink, or other commercial solutions to replicate data from MySQL & Postgres to OLAP systems (e.g., Snowflake, BigQuery, ClickHouse) or Lakehouses (e.g., Delta Lake + Spark). This approach introduces significant operational overhead and expense.Another emerging strategy is the zero-ETL approach, increasingly advocated by cloud providers. This model simplifies data integration by allowing the cloud provider to manage ETL pipelines, while necessitating reliance on specific cloud ecosystems and services.*Key features*MyDuck Server offers a real-time analytical replica that leverages DuckDB's native columnar storage and processing capabilities. It operates as a separate server, ensuring isolation and minimizing impact on your primary database. Key features include:- Easy Zero-ETL: Built-in real-time replication from MySQL & Postgres with no complex pipelines to manage. It feels like a standard MySQL replica or Postgres standby. With the Docker image, passing a connection string is enough.- MySQL & Postgres Protocol Compatibility: We take this seriously and are working to make this project integrate well with the existing ecosystem around MySQL & Postgres. Currently, it is already possible to connect to MyDuck with standard MySQL & PostgreSQL clients in many programming languages.- HTAP Support: A standard database proxy can be deployed in front of a MySQL/Postgres primary and its MyDuck replica to route write operations to the primary and read operations to the replica. It just works.- DuckDB SQL & Columnar I/O over Postgres Protocol: It's unnecessary to restrict ourselves to MySQL/Postgres's SQL expressiveness and row-oriented data transfer. The Postgres port accepts all DuckDB-valid SQL queries, and you can retrieve query results in columnar format via `COPY (SELECT ...) TO STDOUT (FORMAT parquet/arrow)`.- Standalone Mode: It does not need to be run as a replica. It can also act as a primary server that brings DuckDB into server mode and accepts updates from multiple connections, breaking DuckDB's single-process limitation.*Relevant Previous HN Threads*- pg_duckdb [1] (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41275751) is the official Postgres extension for DuckDB. It uses DuckDB as an execution engine to accelerate analytical queries by scanning Postgres tables directly.- pg_mooncake [2] (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41998247) is a Postgres extension that adds columnstore tables for PG. It uses pg_duckdb under the hood but stores data in Lakehouse formats (Iceberg & Delta Lake).- BemiDB [3] (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42078067) is also a DuckDB-based Postgres replica. Unlike us, they focus on storing data in Lakehouse format.We believe MyDuck Server offers a compelling solution for those seeking high-performance analytics on their MySQL & Postgres data without the complexities and costs of traditional approaches. We're eager to hear your feedback and answer any questions you might have. Let me know what you think![0] https://github.com/apecloud/myduckserver[1] https://github.com/duckdb/pg_duckdb[2] https://github.com/Mooncake-Labs/pg_mooncake[3] https://github.com/BemiHQ/BemiDB

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Hello HN, one of the founders of Mooncake Labs here.Today, we are launching pg_mooncake, an extension that brings columnstore tables with DuckDB execution to Postgres. Expect analytical performance akin to DuckDB on Parquet (clickbench results to come soon). You can run transactional updates, deletes, inserts on these tables, and they're written as Delta Lake tables (and soon Iceberg) to your object store (S3, etc.). pg_mooncake is live on Neon today. Let us know what you think. It'll be coming to Supabase shortly, and other Postgres providers in the future.Why another postgres analytics extension?We actually leverage pg_duckdb and DuckDB as our execution engine — this is how we were able to ship the extension in just 60 days. We wrote about this with the DuckDB team: https://motherduck.com/blog/pg-mooncake-columnstore/pg_mooncake shines in two scenarios: 1. Up-to-date analytics in Postgres - This is where having a table semantics, and not just exporting files is key. 2. Exporting Postgres Data to Iceberg/Delta Lake tables, and querying them outside of Postgres - Run ad-hoc analytics with Pandas, DuckDB, Polars. Or data transforms and processing with Polars and Spark directly on these tables. You don’t need to manage ad-hoc parquet files and complex pipelines. Mooncake Labs.We just came out of stealth today. Mooncake is a managed Lakehouse with clean Postgres and Python experiences. Our core belief is that open table formats (Iceberg and Delta) provide a lot of flexibility, and we can ensure great DevEx on top. We will bring it to more workloads, applications, developers and agents.Read about our beliefs: https://mooncake.dev/blog/3.Cheers!

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